just a few thoughts on desteni cult

just a few thoughts on desteni cult

desteni believes in reptilians as a real concept, although they may try to hide this from you or evade talk on the matter, broadly speaking it is the same as the new age paranoid conspiracies on reptilians that David Icke spouts in regard to new world order. 

desteni has a new twist, they are in contact with reptilians, not original i admit, but interesting as a shift from the work of David Icke.

destonians, aka destenians, are often not keen to debate theories on reptilians due to the nature of the issue, this is not due to the usual lack of care for the topic, but instead their realisation that they cannot forward the issue of reptilians and they cannot disregard it as its part of the desteni cult belief,
they are stuck in a bit of a pickle.

destonians don't mind lying to you if it means they can get away with it, in regards to various issues desteni members and friends will out right lie to win a debate or to make a point, but if its not fact or honest its just trolling people in the end.

if they follow desteni then they are following Sunettes example, as Sunette is this portal for the dimensions and she channelled reptilians and various other entities destonians must except new age beliefs

5th November 2011 - why I didn't go to a protest

You may find this hard to believe, I realised how much of a joke the protests are, occupy London stock exchange is easily the failed protest that Britain deserves, a number of die hard protesters, young impressionable students, and some who want change, they are not the 99%, the 99% is not yet mobilised to the call of reason.

I went there to the London stock exchange in October, a dangerous trend of conspiracy theories was largely what scares away the general public, talk on Zeitgeist and various other conspiracisms were seemingly popular, and blaming "the system", socialist workers party set up a table, which pushes away moderates and liberal minded people in the city when they see the leftists in large numbers, so far from the 99%.

I consider it to have failed from the start, as soon as one political out5 look becomes the status quo, with students and ex-students full of ideas the inner boundary of reason is no more, cast to the wind in an epic fail that threaten the whole movement in the UK.

A saving grace, the Saturday protests that do more than double and triple the protests are the real 99%, in that you see far more of a demographic and not a limited die hard clan of thought.

In conclusion, the reason why I didn't go to the protests in London or near me is because of various invested groups, ideas, and some who are real clowns who hijack the movement for their own views of the world.

Nibiru & Planet X Epic Fail

on my youtube channels, roblesterfilms & robertwlester, I made a number of videos, many of which were not needed and were later removed, but now I have made a more definitive video on robertwlester that covers the key points on the planet X issue.

I hope you have found this work of interest, and I will be bring much more work of this style to you as time goes on, thanks for watching.

What is Desteni???

In the simplest terms, Desteni is an organisation that tries to act like it has answers, and its trying to make a better world, but the facts say its a new age cult that uses conspiracies to draw in recruits, and tides donations in the name of equal money, naturally all for the leader of the cult.

the work of 0rdoTempliAurora on youtube is some of the best on Desteni, although there are now many critics on Desteni, including XfinksX, Istenenergia, freespech4tw, antidestenimovement, antidestonian, desteniscam, felidatheg33k, roblester666films, and many others who tactle the issues in regard to Desteni in all its cultish truth.



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What is AntiDesteni???

This is very simple, clear, and not rocket science by an stretch of the imagination, AntiDesteni is just the continuing criticism of Desteni and it's organisation, we have no rules or community, just a fair number of critics that question the cult of Desteni.

All to often Destonians, the members of the Desteni cult, say we are abusers, haters, or even make out we are illuminati controlled, clearly they are not speaking common-sense, it's a common idea in cult systems to use abuse terms, the cult leader, Bernard Poolman, has even suggested that reptilian sleeper cells are in place to oppose Desteni, I wonder if I qualify as a shape-shifting lizard?  Naturally I don't follow such paranoia, it seems to be the insane ranting of a guru, most lightly just a control to keep followers in the grid, and even if possible I would expect proof of the claims made toward myself or anyone else, it would be at least honest to provide that.

The propagandist of Desteni, Darryl Thomas, seems to find all the time in the world to spread lies on AntiDesteni, even calling us psychotic or Christian extremists, as with Thom Darc, it seems he can't just use the facts but instead seeks to undermine any critics to the new nation of Destonia.

members of AntiDesteni are largely Anonymous, nameless heroes who seek nothing but to allow free speech to continue, this is often a need thanks to Desteni false flags and DMCAs employed as silencing techniques on youtube, their main power-base. 





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2012 theories on nibiru = non-sense

[I am nothing & no-one, but here is my view]

I mean no offence to the followers of the belief, but nibiru is just that.
over the last 7 months i have done a good number of nibiru videos, attacking the so-called proof of the nibiru/2012 movements, although at first they dragged me in.

In later 2010 I had heard of these planet X theories & concluded it is possible, however the strange theories relating to planet X / Nibiru and alien / reptilians was truly insane, not because it is out on the edge, but because the concepts where completely unfounded in proof of any kind.
it was only in early 2011, when I had studied the topic a bit more, that I was able to open a can of kick ass on the theories, sadly some youtubers continue to troll me over the matter, they cannot except that my main channel, "rob lester films" ,was winning again masses of nibiru theorists.
For some Time I had hoped to better understand the ideas of the 2012 movement, my talks with binaryjudy & other lead me to conclude it was a question of belief, not any kind of factual evidence, Judy used to speak in her vids of the vibrational shift, as if over night a great consciousness shift will bring about a mass enlightenment!
It was an interesting idea to say the least, yet nothing of real value was presented, not a thing beyond self help non-sense & new age faiths of a reality matrix.

In my experiences of Nibiru'ers, I've found many have these ideas of consciousness at their centre, as a blind faith, still many, if indeed not most, are stuck in a fear belief that the end is here.
So many of the Nibiru'ers seem to be locked an end of days world view or very least an idea that some kind of end is near, how it will unfold is debated, there are a million theories, from earth quakes to polar shifts, but the facts allude the theorists.

I would like to say not all nibiru theorists are crazy, just a bit nutty, and sometime fruity, but in any case, nutcase or otherwise, being open minded to a maybe event is better than being a person in blissful ignorance until the moment of their doom.

the key points i have covered on nibiru have gone over various objects, theories, concepts, and in the big picture I don't think I've ranted too much, although it comes with the job when debating fanatics who are as bad as any young earth creationist or new age nutjob.

My vid that did the best was "Nibiru end of the world 2012", made in December 2010, it has received over 200,000 views, not bad at all, but it had a great thumb nail pic, good tags, and I left it as a response to a very popular video on nibiru.  so it took off not by my hard work, but by being in the right place at the right time.

Equal money system fails freedom

Various groups and organisations seem to see an "equal money system" as the cure for all ills, sadly this is not so, infact a new level of problems can arise from such a system, most obvious is how can we ensure relative freedom?  and how would it be regulated if not by force?
it seems to me that an equal money system would require a ruling body that has to police all people to ensure equality, however, a fair money system could be an obvious answer, not equal money but an economic cap on people and business to provent a super wealthy elite from ruling over the people, this idea has the advanyage of offering reward for hard work or wise investment that would lead to a middle-class world (no poor or super rich).

A well known cult known as Zeitgeist tries to claim a resource driven system would solve the majority of our worries, however, this point of view as with other groups who follow this logic fails to deal with the idea of who owns your money, how would be regulated, who polices this system and how?
 As with any equal system well may expect the use of authortarian tactics to make people conform to said ideals of the cult, religion, or organisation, maybe a soviet system would manifest, I think to avoid this the fair money system holds more value and need less regulation (and control) of the people.


A final thought, what is your labour if not for progression, what is the point of work if you get the everything handed to you, is it not a greater thing to earn what you have and truly have it as yours, is it fair to surrender freedom for security when its a foundation of a police state, could it be said that a completely regulated nation is peace and security at the cost of progress???


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why I speak out against cults

I oppose cult groups for a very good reason, they are cults, not free, not fair, not honest, full of crap, and they think they should get respect, how dare they, they brainwash members, screw over people for money and power and the want respect because they play god, its moronic.

in my view the only reason to oppose cults is to safe guard liberty in the face of those who would take it away.

Colleen Thomas, the conartist from space

as you maybe aware my work against Colleen Thomas, known as colesakick on youtube, is going well, she is a new age conwoman who plays on fears of alien invasions and UN take overs to fool the ignorant and conspiritorial minds of thousands of youtubers, if only until they see passed the sea of faeces that is generated by colleen's drug induced insanity.

Colleen started as an average new age guru on youtube, or so it seemed, a psychic/mystic who was not very realistic, nothing strange apart from the odd faith, I noticed her in october 2010, her claim to prodict the alien invasion that would end the world was odd to say the least, she made wild claims that got her tens of thousands of views in a few days.  As you can tell the aliens didn't land, we are still here, and yet Colleen continues to make wild claims and will false flag small channels if they question her work in a very open way, she effectively shut down "colleen talks crap" and tried the warn people that she is the mother goddess, so don't f#ck with her?

My self I did one vid in october, asking WTF!, after I made a number of videos questioning her non-sense and pointing out her most epic fails, one of which as the UN take over of parts of the south west USA,
naturally she just moved on and never answered the obvious question "why did nothing happened?",
so myself and a few others have taken it upon our selves to share points of views on colleen and expose her as the conartist she truly is.

she has been on a few radio shows, Russia Today News, and various podcasts, but regardless of attention whoring she has mostly failed to gain any great note as a speaker or guru for the new age,
if anything she has just made it so only a tiny number of fools swollow her B.S theories of dooms days and E.T's.

she has made so many claim I can't keep up, she just makes a clown of her self in the truther world,
her choice and indeed her greatest error was to open her mouth, my simple advice is for people to avoid the quack completely, well apart from researching her scam. 

please visit my channel on youtube for my videos on Colleen Thomas & her scam
http://www.youtube.com/user/roblesterfilms  & 
http://www.youtube.com/user/robertwlester

against the desteni cult

over the years I have come across a few cults and their techiques, one of the most unusual is the desteni cult, known as desteni productions on youtube, I came across their work 4 years ago and was very interested in all types of spiritual practice, desteni was not originally my foe, just a strange thing to watch sometimes.

I only became an ally of antidesteni as i studied the cult in early 2010, their theories were of some interest to me and my own spiritual path as a psychic at the time, but thankfully I grew out of that way of life.  Their talk of equality was interesting, however a great guy known as "desteni truth" exposed them greatly in his videos on the dark side of the desteni belief, over the next three months I met ten main players in Anti-Desteni, they were not organised, but all thought it best to oppose the cult of desteni.

Althought we are not one organisation, and we do not work together in most ways, through out 2010 over 20 people were engaged in the conflict as desteni flagged vids down and DMCA'd others, silencing their foes,
and this year the same war of anticult verses the desteni cult continues.

Through out 2010 and right up to the present day many more rational people have been speaking up against the desteni control systems, but their false flagging of our vids inspired us to co-operate as never before, and has made us a force which would not be easily defeated, indeed even if removed from youtube we are still legion, we are guardians of free speech for all perspectives, and we will not be stopped from sharing our views on desteni just because they are not the party line.

The "anti desteni movement" is a project organised between a number of AntiDesteni allies, its goal was to make aware a great number of people of the reality of desteni productions, mostly expose them as a cult and not a development group, naturally this was not hard to show as an actuality, and with 0rdoTempliAurora, XfinksX, Istenenergia, FreeSpeech4tw & others on the case with myself RobLesterFilms we have a large base to spread the facts on the desteni cult.